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Old 19-01-2008, 06:10 PM #1
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Hi all,

My question is (having just watched a video of Tom Cruise promoting Scientology), what connexion does Scientology as a cult or religious movement have to the "Illuminati" Agenda? If I were to join up the dots, how would Scientology fit into the bigger picture of the conspiracy/plan?

I know L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology (with his wife, it should be noted), had Masonic connexions. Yet it is hard to discern further info, since none of the conspiracy "gurus", David Icke included, ever talk about Scientology and its role in depth.

Could this be because the Scientologists are notoriously litigous and prone to threatening critics, or because it occupies some obscure non-grata place in the hidden scheme of things, one that is best not spoken of perhaps?

Any helpful answers appreciated.
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Old 19-01-2008, 07:31 PM #2
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As far as I know L. Ron Hubbard was/is a satanist also. The religion seems to be another one of the illuminatis reworked sub plots like christianity, hinduism or whatever. Of course to make it seem valid they sprinkle some hidden half truth in there but mostly more esoteric symbolism.
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Old 19-01-2008, 07:39 PM #3
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yes - CO$ had masonic connections. I have traced their connections back to various secret societies here and abroad. Here as in the UK.

Most seems to stem back to a point of source called the Theosophical Society which has many esoteric beliefs all into one organisation. The off shoots seem to go in lots of directions - CO$ is one of the directions it took. I also believe we are also talking about spiritual and philosophical beliefs and the church as well as the freemasons are considered new religious movements. I checked that out via a group here in the uk called "inform". You pointed out that being in the church and being a mason was not a problem

It seems to me that the word occult fits into the illuminati agenda. Where they are on the pyramid - not sure? At the top? The church is a serpent cult, such is the Theosophical Society. Both are connected to the psychiatric service in one way or another. In the UK - the links to the NHS are massive. The NHS is masonic - the TS is supposed to be the masons?

The agenda as I see it - from copious reading is connected to reducing the worlds population amongst other things.

I think the church wanted to be very high up - fingers in every pie. Because of the connections to not so good publicity, they are hiding behind other organisations. I once saw a list of all the businesses it owned - some you would never connect to the cult/church at all - like a donkey sanctuary of all things to publishing companies.

I would not want to be litigus about the church - but individuals you might be, so you could end up indirectly slagging off a church member and then be open to their "fair game" policies

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Old 19-01-2008, 08:27 PM #4
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esoteric symbolism - that is very astute - you are right. My dealings with the symbolism is connected to a whole range of things - buildings, images, words as well as NLP and the study of human gestures. Inclusive of the connections with zen buddhism and the other eastern groups

The basis of esotericism is philosophy and plato - who was not into telling the truth. He was very jealous of other gods etc and was always falling out with them so the story goes. Therefore the movement says it is based on truth when actually it is the reverse. The Meister Eckhart Tolle uses this as a basis of his books. So the books are not what they seem. It is in reverse the goodness and light is infact pure evil.

Look up the The history of the Theosophical Society and it will tell you those connections.

The seal of the TS consists of the caudecus - snake chasing its tail, the star of david, the swastika which is in reverse and the ankh. I did look them up individually.

I rang someone on the TS list and she was petrified. I rang her again and she did the same. All I said was is this the contact for the TS...... and down went the phone?

CO$ and Theosophical society are massively linked as well as the masons
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Old 19-01-2008, 08:41 PM #5
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COS same letters as another COS which is Church of Satan, Hubbard had connections to Crowley and Jack Parsons the man who worked on the NASA Space Programme rocket technology, all members of the OTO Ordo Templi Orientis, all these people where totally Masonic.

Crowley was a mentor of Anton La Vey, the founder of the Church of Satan, all these groups use mind control and believe in pseudo metaphysical sciences, they are structured and work in similar ways and in tandam.
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Old 19-01-2008, 08:46 PM #6
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yep - thats why I did CO$ instead of COS. I have the Order of the Nine Angles on my doorstep, Do you know if they connected to the council of nine?

I have the rosicrucian order, as well as two mormon churches, CO$ up the road as well as 40 masonic lodges all in one county The arthurius society comes from here too

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I know - did not know all this until recently. I understand that CO$ ran the Stanfords parapsychology dept in the mid 60's onwards. Many high ranking thetans worked with Karl Pribham on the said technology. It was in the Washington Post dated 1977
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CO$ has connections with Nazism, the occult and Darwinism as well. Looks like they all connect in some way

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The Meister Eckhart Tolle uses this as a basis of his books. So the books are not what they seem. It is in reverse the goodness and light is infact pure evil.
G'day chicken, could you elaborate on this comment please? Are you referring to Meister Eckhart or Eckhart Tolle?
I presume you mean Eckhart Tolle, if so are you saying he has ties to the TS?

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Old 19-01-2008, 11:12 PM #9
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Thank you all for your answers.

Yes, the connexion of Hubbard with Crowley, Parsons et al, both of whom worked directly (Crowley) or indirectly (Parsons) for MI6 (Parsons for their American branch), NASA, rocket designs, sex-magic rituals (no doubt Hubbard joined them in their exploits), LaVey, Satanism, the Crown, Tavistock, RIIA, CFR...etc. You can see how it might link up.

Smart money bets the Church of Scientology, which is run like a corporate org, is in the Intelligence gathering business. It's tax-exempt, supposedly non-profit (but makes millions, perhaps billions every year, from it activities).

Anyway, thanks again.
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esoteric symbolism - that is very astute - you are right. My dealings with the symbolism is connected to a whole range of things - buildings, images, words as well as NLP and the study of human gestures. Inclusive of the connections with zen buddhism and the other eastern groups

The basis of esotericism is philosophy and plato - who was not into telling the truth. He was very jealous of other gods etc and was always falling out with them so the story goes. Therefore the movement says it is based on truth when actually it is the reverse. The Meister Eckhart Tolle uses this as a basis of his books. So the books are not what they seem. It is in reverse the goodness and light is infact pure evil.

Look up the The history of the Theosophical Society and it will tell you those connections.



The seal of the TS consists of the caudecus - snake chasing its tail, the star of david, the swastika which is in reverse and the ankh. I did look them up individually.

I rang someone on the TS list and she was petrified. I rang her again and she did the same. All I said was is this the contact for the TS...... and down went the phone?

CO$ and Theosophical society are massively linked as well as the masons
Thankyou for this research chicken.
I know eternal_spirit has been at this along time and reached these conclusions also.
I am a newbie to the indepth inter-workings of these various entities.
It is fasinating and boggels the mind how truely extensive, devious and satantic it all is.
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